r][m is right...they are inherited. they are all real, but it doesn't matter if they are actually part of the tree in HFS, as long as the parent folder has the rights, it trickles down to the child folders as long as they are real on the hard drive, which is fine and works for me and this project. i only have the parent (real), child (real), and ONE grandchild (real) folders on the HFS tree, but when opened in browser, i can click on any grandchild folder (since it's real on the hard drive), and see everything and also have full rights, same as were set for admin on parent folder (access, upload, delete, etc...). so all rights are inherited for admin whether it's actually ON the HFS tree or just on drive...as long as parent is real and rights are set accordingly.