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Offline CR1T1C4L

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Let me introduce myself Hi my name is CR1T1C4L I am an avid user of HFS and I love it, I once used Apache and it was nice but for overall usage and simple GUI this app kicks major ass....now for the harsh part....

There is no nice way to say this but your guides suck donkey b*lls in the worst kinda way, I don't say that to be mean I am just informing you that some people aren't as well diverse in HTML/JS....here let me give you an example....


In this "HFS Documentation (English)" you show state that
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page=mm,nn 
    List files from the page mm with nn items

Now I am not informed enough on HFS to know what that means....and it doesn't help that there is no example on how to correctly use it like in this fashion EXAMPLE 1. One can make an argument that this is a much better guide or example of how to correctly implement the code....now don't get me wrong I am not trying to bash you guys I mean I don't know how many people you have working on this program/site among other things there are too many variables to consider but in closing I would like to say that I think setting up some sort of example in codes that you have would greatly reduce the amount of needless/repeated threads that I see here. Alot of times there are Q & A threads where someone just refers to another thread that still leaves the end users trying to figure out how to get the original question answered.


Also a nice IRC chat room would be a step in the right direction.....maybe 7-10 KNOWLEDGEABLE users in HFS run it (From different time zones of course).....



PS I am willing to help out I don't just give my opinion without trying to lend a helping hand so if you need me feel free to ask
« Last Edit: January 13, 2009, 04:02:00 AM by CR1T1C4L »


Offline TSG

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The wiki is broken. I have reported it to rejetto.

You are asking a lot of our small community. Keep in mind that all of the work on the program is done by rejetto. mars and SilentPliz get creative with delphi and macros. Giant Eagle and I stick to our templates and making suggestions to rejetto about improvements on the template engine and program interface. There are also some members around that help test the beta's like maverick, Foggy and MarkV.

Personally, I have never liked the wiki. But it is the only compiled resource about the program. I agree that you do need a basic programming knowledge to understand macros, and that is how it should be. HTML and CSS, are not by any means hard programming languages. Languages like JavaScript and ActionScript (Flash) are what I call the next step in web development. If you can handle these then you are ready to take on languages like PHP. Macros, I feel, are a step between JavaScript and PHP. You need a basic knowledge of programming syntax, and the ability to recognise that these are a server side script, not client side (web browser).

An IRC channel is a good idea, but I personally don't use IRC. Most of my HFS talk occurs over MSN. Keeping in mind that we all play with HFS as a hobby in our spare time, and the community is relatively small.

What I'm trying to say is, don't be scared that you don't know how Macros work, if you don't know JavaScript, you should probably practice more with that before you try creating something with Macro. Trial and Error is the best way to learn how to program in my opinion. After completing my multimedia degree I still believe that to be true, most of what I know now has come from Google and Trial and Error.

On our website, http://www.rawr-designs.com we do intend to create tutorials/blogs about just this sort of thing. But its finding the time to update the website that is the problem at the moment. We'll get round to it eventually, especially when the hits on the site and files get to a level we are happy with. We bought this hosting out of our own pocket for our HFS projects, and we provide it as a mirror for HFS also.

You can create a template in a very basic manner, using only [section], %symbol% and HTML/CSS. Macro just allows you to take HFS Templates to the next level without integrating PHP into the application. I have personally compiled a list of valid template syntax here, this however does not discuss Macros:
http://www.rejetto.com/forum/index.php?topic=1939.0

« Last Edit: January 13, 2009, 11:04:11 AM by That_Stevens_Guy »


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thanks for warning me TSG.
it should be fixed now.

about documentation: we had a very good guy who took care for a while of it, Peter (thanks again!).
his successor was: no one.
nothing strange, most people don't enjoy writing documentation. Not even I.
Actually what we all do here is for fun, in our spare time, and this is the best we got. We may do better having more time (or more people).

about IRC: it was already suggested. I cannot give myself support chatting, it would take all my little time and would kill the project. Answering on the forum takes 60% of my available time.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2009, 12:35:11 PM by rejetto »


Offline CR1T1C4L

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I understand what you guys mean I was just pointing out a few things I noticed and as I said before I don't mind helping out in anyway, if you need me to make Docs I will do it anything to help anyone further themselves as a group or people...


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You are forgiven CR1T1C4L, i love you  :-*. And you are to That Stevens Guy for not mention my name, im the regular bullshiter remember  :'(
GOD CAN READ YOUR MIND


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the docs are on the wiki, and everyone can give a hand, without permission.
I monitor all changes, to avoid bad edits.
If you plan to work on the wiki, create an account.
If you need suggestions on what should be done, we can discuss it on the forum. Everyone can suggest.