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Software => HTML & templates => HFS ~ HTTP File Server => RAWR-Designs => Topic started by: ledufe on November 15, 2006, 05:40:12 PM
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i am trying some new stuff on the hfs, and i want to share and try some ideas, also i found some development way to easy the process of doing a template...
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We have got the css sheets working in all browsers so far. and they change, we made a cookie code thing, and it stayed the same, but it wasnt very good, it glitched in places, it would be better if the page was php i think, but i know nothing about this.
I have to go to bed so gnight all.
More detailed version of this in http://www.rejetto.com/forum/index.php?topic=3872.0 (http://www.rejetto.com/forum/index.php?topic=3872.0)
Accidently started this one in here :-[ , but it is relevant so...
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Its an ever changing template and updating all the templates with a new version is a very boring task, so i have made it easier to edit by linking to seperate style_1.css sheets, so basically the template stays with one cool layout, and the colours and some style can be changed using an external sheet.
EDIT: ok have now done the same with the javascript (script.js), the contact form added a lot of javascript.
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Can,t see it, btw i agree that IE is not the most optimal browser. But please don't tell me what to chose.
When loading takes more than 3 seconds, my attention span gets exceeded.
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I said it before. i say it again. HFS rocks! Today i was thinking to grab all my cd s, put them in a paperbox and writhe antique on it. Harddisk is the future i belived. I aint green, and i know what mp3 is, i thoght. But now i know. It.. it.. it.., sucks? By the way,, this Thunderchicken of Glory Template rip and rules. Ok, ok, where was i.. Yea, ..stored my box away. All i did was push eject, inserst cd, colse, refresh browser, and there it was on the web. Thats like 3 moves man hehe. HFS rocks! And guess what program i used, it starts with an w and ends with an r.The reason i mention it, is the codecs, i did 300somethings kb and 44 with Lame and audiograbber. I need and other format man. Is it possible to convert wav to wav, reduce the file size by 10:1 and still have the good old qualyty. :D . Just my thoughts for the night. Cheers! or Skål! as i would say in old good Norwgian
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This template is so beautyful that i forgot to customize it
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heh sorry about the ie killer ~Gees~ :P MASSIVE apologies, it has been removed, i forgot it was still there, especially since the template works in all browsers now, i only use it in IE when it really makes me angry >:(.... but this time its been pleasent to work with... sorta, apart from a few css hacks... loading my hfs will be slow at the moment, because i am downloading torrents, AND i only have 17kb\s upload speed, so when im fully operational it should load in less than 2 seconds.
Thanks for the good reviews fysack, a new version of this template is going to be uploaded sometime tonight, i am commenting it to make it easier for people to use. (tonight in australia :-\).
I need to know before i put them together, do people want the template to have a login system or not?
Note: the version on my hfs is a preview site, the templates that i will make available to public use will only have 1 style and script that loads externally i will write some in depth instructions on how to get these external files working, that is unless people don't want the external files... so post about it.... i feel the external files make it easier to edit, because the user can simply open the css and js files in dreamweaver (for e.g.) and edit away, unlike the template.
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Newest version is posted, i was going to have external css, javascript, but i feel it was to complicated for the user to implement, especially with the user having to make a MIME type for the css.
EDIT: also can someone please tell me which is the favourite layout, mine is the blue/white one.
EDIT: do people want the template to have a login system or not, if not tell me?
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Sometimes i'm unfortunately forced to use IE.
The blue/white style looks nice.
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Your login page is screwed. It times out with url not found. Also with the graph the page keeps refreshing itself.
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No idea why its refreshing "Jim", just because the graph is on the page doesn't mean it refreshes lol. Its not even in the template code lol. AND also the login form is a trial feature i am thinking of going back to a link href button. OK its 2am and im sleepin, night all.
I am ready for any advice, thats the idea of this forum post, so we build a template that everyone likes :D
~Gees~ i like the blue/white one aswell :), so far everyone is leaning towards that.
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ok i have a problem, i want to link to the style sheet within the template [style] so it loads inside a javascript popup in the template.... like so...
tmp.write('<html><head><title>Contact</title><style>%style%</style></head><body>');
i know im doing it right for inside the template, but in this it makes the popup not work, can anyone explain why?
i am thinking i am going to have to redo all the css with the popup like, <style>pasting of needed css</style>
EDIT: yea i needed to paste it all in.... yucky, so if anyone knows how to get the link to the hfs stylsheet tell me...
EDIT: due to popular demand the blue/white one is going to be the only one now.
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Is it possible that we could have a "ThunderChicken_01" template, without a login system.
Then "ThunderChicken_02", with a login system.
Followed by "ThunderChicken_03" etc etc.
My point, as almost always, is the wiki.
http://rejetto.com/wiki/index.php?title=Template_Examples
The idea of course, is to explain (or at least show) the differences in various templates so that users can create their own.
I'll happily discuss this more if you want, and I'll also happily make the first draft of the doc. as soon as you say the 01 version is ready.
Alternatively, you have a perfect right to say that you don't want this in the wiki, although I think that would be a great pity.
I'd also welcome input from anybody about which templates are good to put in the wiki. ledufe is now hosting a vast collection (reachable from the above link) but I don't know which one to add next!
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Good job with the Wiki!
My favourite template at the moment: Clean from chionsas
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I personally think the Thunderchicken of Glory template sucks! My god, i've never seen such a bad template in my life. I mean 'Thunderchicken of Glory' ??? What were they thinking!?
Incase you didn't realise by now, sarcasm. Much, much sarcasm ;). ToG is based off www.isohunt.com (http://www.isohunt.com) layout - based off meaning that stevens guy swiped it good. Him, Ledufe and I are working together to build the ultimate template to show just what sorts of things you can do with HFS. We still have a long road ahead of us and many more features to add.
That Stevens Guy may be inferior in just about every way, but he's a good worker drone and i'm working him hard to keep us on schedule. The way I see it, this won't end up being a template for every day use in the end, it'll just be one that shows off a whole lot of snazzy features, although Ledufe and TSG may have some other ideas on that one. If anyone has any suggestions or stuff they'd like to see on the template, please contact one or all of us with a detailed explanation of what you're looking for.
Here are our roles:
TSG: Layout, colour scheme
Flynsarmy: coder
Ledufe: public relations. We're relying on heavily his metrosexual good looks to keep us popular.
--End Transmission--
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HAHA, inferior :P guess who does the MOST work on it *MEEEEEE*, o and flynsarmy saw a picture of ledufe on his hfs, but still its fairly scary that he even mentions anything about a guys looks...
I will get to work on the versions without the login system momentarily, but as flynsarmy said in a longish way, we have many other things we want to include. But it could be added to the wiki if you want :D
Its nice to know people are liking this template so far.
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HHUAHAUAUAHAUHAHAAUHAUAHHAUHAAUAHAUHAUAH LOL
very , very fun...
and i am not being sarcastic here
this it was very funny
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Yea, its nice and clean that Clean one. But personally i like some action on the index page, i love that inbound, outbound, uptime,connections and graph. I use my hfs for friends and family, and for that reason i think its nice to personalize it with backgrounds, colours, gif and stuff.
Its a cool future that login page, but i think it would be better get to that indexpage without login. I want, the first thing they see is my indexpage, i think it would be better if the login appear after they click on of the folders.
As for a easy to use template i think its better to implent the css and java. If you have little html knowledge changing colours,links and background would be plenty. If you have medium html knowledge external ccs and js files would be better.
For experienced html coders i think it would not matter,they would figure it out or build their own template. So maybye its here you need 2 versions..
The blue/white was my natural choice. ..and ps! those small swf mp3 players implented in the template really looks cool.
Future request: Send free SMS form ;D RSS feed, Your ip is:xxx.., and all on the indexpage offcourse ;)
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Future request: Send free SMS form ;D RSS feed, Your ip is:xxx.., and all on the indexpage offcourse ;)
I have no idea about RSS i will get flynsarmy to work on that one... the 'Your IP is:' thingo, do u mean the IP of the person accessing the server?
IF you do mean this, i have looked into it, and it only seems possible on shtml and php type pages... if anyone knows how to do this... tell me...
UPDATE ON TEMPLATE:
Has new features, the rows of the files these now have the ability to change colour on hover... on some links and text a tooltip will show up revealing some nifty info on what it does. The template also has the ability to turn the thumbnails on and off, strange feature, made by flynsarmy.
The javascript is a little larger now, so it has been put into an external script.js file again, this should be easy to implement.
NEXT FEATURE: a login form like on ledufe's server.
Below is an example of the new features:
NOTE: these all happen one at a time lol, i have simply just layered the image.
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an idea about login box: it may be a js/css popup when someone click on a "login" link.
a mean, not a real popup opening a new browser window. it should be instantly open.
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an idea about login box: it may be a js/css popup when someone click on a "login" link.
a mean, not a real popup opening a new browser window. it should be instantly open.
It took me a bit to understand this :-\, buuut i think i understand, so u want the login form to be in a hidden div, like those tooltips are? i could do that, with time... i add stuff to this late at night when im bored lol.
EDIT: haven't been able to do this yet, but i have fixed a lot of errors, and it is now perfectly compatible with all browsers, (ie7, ie6, firefox 1.5, firefox 2.0, opera 9.02), big achievement for me lol.
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yes, you got it
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A new version for the public is posted, hopefully people will understand how to implement, i have edited the README to give more detailed instructions.
It has a few more features from the last update post lol. They are endless, so far template is only 18kb and the javascript file is only 5kb. which is impressive considering the amount of features the site now has.
Hopefully now that rejetto has accepted my feature request to show a users IP on the template, i will be able to achieve fysack's request :), it is a nifty idea.
I cant wait until HFS has an internal file search for the templates, that would really bring the HFS templates to life. Its the main thing i believe the HFS templates lack at the moment.
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how to setup the registration
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how to setup the registration
i don't really understand that, i need more than 5 words lol. i got 2 random emails from someone called ryan, but hfs didn't pickup anyone accessing my server.... you may have been using flynsarmy's, who knows, he was testing my hfs template. You have to find the mailto: link in the script.js file and put your email after the mailto: link like "mailto:email@server.com" then that form will send itself off to the destination email address. being the owner (administrator) of the hfs using the template...
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could u test it form me.
and that was my email that u recived
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http://209.94.195.103:81/ is the address
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http://209.94.195.103:81/ is the address
yes, it is working.
anyway, to know if it is working or not, just use the self test. you can trust it.
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Thanks to the great work from the trio !...
looks allright, a bit tech maybe but with just the features I like : registration, swf player, thumbnails, ie7, ie6, firefox 2.0, opera 9.02 and blue color ! I'll give it a try asap !
TCube
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anyway, to know if it is working or not, just use the self test. you can trust it.
I have found self test does not work on my router, setting mine up was painful, but not so much now i know what i'm doing :P.
Thankyou for the support Tcube, we are just having some fun with this one, it has reached a peak now, and alot of the new features are even too advanced for us to implement easily. It is fun having something to challenge us, i like how this template build has also given us the freedom to do more and more to it. And as long as implementing an external javascript is not too complex for the users it means more features can be added. :)
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You spent a lot of time on this template. The main problem with it is that it depends heavily on javascript to work. Therefore, it isn't user friendly. There are many reasons why people don't travel the net with javascript enabled, the main one being security.
I guess it all depends on the type of user you want to attract to your site. If it is just family and close friends your template would be ok if they didn't mind using javascript. If you are opening up your site to the public, that's another matter.
The challenge in making a "good" user friendly template is to have the same type of features available and accessable to all users whether they use javascript or not.
I once used a template with a lot of javascript and found that many people avoided the site if the javascript requirement was pushed on them. They simply moved on to the next site which means I not only lost potential users, I also waisted a lot of time creating a template that wasn't user friendly.
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TOG template was never designed with the security conscious in mind. I personally am really slack
with system security (although i DO use FF instead of IE :P) and i'm pretty sure TSG is too. Our
template was designed for the majority and due to all major browsers having JS enabled by default,
we've found that most people tend to support JS in websites.
You do bring up a good and valid argument though. It's possible we did overlook the fact that some
people may not use it. We've been working hard on trying to get the site compatable for all browsers
although there are still a few glitches here and there (images in IE anyone?). I personally will convince
the mighty Ledufe and his bumbling sidekick TSG to make sure anything available in JS will also be
available without it - you may lose the snazzy affects, but the meat of the site should still be there.
As always, constructive criticism is welcome and we encourage anyone with any ideas or suggestions
to speak up.
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javascript = ajax = web 2.0 = most google services
there is no way out, but using an updated good browser
HFS will always furnish a js-free template, but in the future the default template will be plenty of javascript
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... but in the future the default template will be plenty of javascript
looks interesting.....
lets wait....
HFS 3.....
i can hear it comming....
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OK i have made a version of the template with NO JAVASCRIPT AT ALL!!!! it LOOKS the same but without the dynamic effects :)
I hear a low roar of victory from the security paranoid...
I think i have gotten rid of all javascript, please post if i havent...
NOTE: This current version of the no javascript ToG will probably never change... :o
EDIT: This version has been removed, the Thunderchicken_of_Glory, is now compatible with browsers when they have javascript turned off.
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Just taking a look at your template. Nice Job. Has anyone reported incompatibilities with the Registration feature?
Here are my findings with the browsers I have available right now:
Opera v8.51 - as soon as I try to enter text in any field by first clicking the mouse on the field, the popup closes as if I hit cancel.
Opera v9.02 - I can enter text in all of the fields, but after I click submit, Opera pops up with an error and I have to shut it down.
Internet Explorer v6.0 - same as Opera v8.51
Firefox v1.5.0.1 - works
Netscape v7.2 - works
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wow :o great work and progress everybody. I hardly keep up configure it ;D
Java.., Security.., Userfriendly.., People turn of java because its have the power to scear you. I know i did.
With HFS i look at security in a new way. If you want to make your computer to a fileserver, so back it up!
And user friendly for everybody also mean that you can have the option to tweak it to the maximum.
Thats why playstation1 beat the shit out of nintendo64 ;)
The perfect template to hfs would be the one with 2 clicks install, clean and smoot,along with hfs`s drag and add, fullworking , no questions.
Along with that you can have the Thunder Chicken of Glory power pack, or even better you could have a button like hfs expert/easy somewhere somehow :P
Has anyone reported incompatibilities with the Registration feature?
Yea, same happend to me, i use updated iexplorer and opera. I also use symbian OS on phone who had some issues also, this symbian OS + HFS + TCG noLogin work verry verry verry smoot.
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Opera v8.51 - as soon as I try to enter text in any field by first clicking the mouse on the field, the popup closes as if I hit cancel.
Opera v9.02 - I can enter text in all of the fields, but after I click submit, Opera pops up with an error and I have to shut it down.
Internet Explorer v6.0 - same as Opera v8.51
Firefox v1.5.0.1 - works
Netscape v7.2 - works
I know about these issues, we are looking into removing almost all of the javascript we have alot of work ahead lol. I can fix the popup closing issue, i know what's causing it. BUT the submit button issues your having are strange, i have no problem with it on my machine. So i will fix this popup closing problem momentarily.
I i have noticed that the 'Login to: %host%' form button crashes opera that is the weirdest error EVER, so i will make it a html link button with some styling ::)
The perfect template to hfs would be the one with 2 clicks install.
If someone could tell us how to make an install exe that could set the script.js and install the template, it would be great, cause then we could get more complex templates happening :o
EDIT: I HAVE FIXED THEM, as usual i uploaded them again, if there is any problems post about it.
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I i have noticed that the 'Login to: %host%' form button crashes opera that is the weirdest error EVER, so i will make it a html link button with some styling ::)
That doesn't happen here. What happens here is "nothing". Actually if I let Opera do it's thing long enough, I'm sure it would timeout trying to bring up the login popup. I can't login from that login page at all with Opera v8.51 and Opera v9.02. I was able to login with Firefox v1.5.0.1 but it took an awfully long time for some reason. I didn't try it with any other browser.
A html link would probably be the best solution. We know that works.
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EDIT: I HAVE FIXED THEM, as usual i uploaded them again, if there is any problems post about it.
What did you fix? The registration issue? If so that change would be in the script.js file, right? Is this the link to the fix -->
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As i have said before ANY changes that are made, are put into that .zip file and hosted :D, I fixed all the problems you were having, i hope.
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I fixed all the problems you were having, i hope.
Please don't think I'm being sarcastic, because I don't mean to be. But, the problems I reported had to do with the registration feature. I'm not sure what you fixed other than create a html login link. The registration problems remain as stated previously.
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When i click the "Submit" button in Opera 9.02 on my pc, it just comes up saying that i need to set a mail client? i dont use opera so its not set up... So i dont know what the problems you were having. The problem you were having lay in the script.js and on the template, i had to repair both of these.
When 'Submit' is clicked on my Opera i get this first:
<127.0.0.1>
This form will be submitted via e-mail, revealing your name and e-mail address to the recipient. Do you want to continue?
Then (once i click 'yes') i get:
You need to create an account before proceeding. Would you like to create one now?
This is where i hit 'No' cause i dont want to set my opera up, its only for testing.
Because of these popups occuring, i am lead to believe that the mailto: link is in fact working perfectly fine :D
OOOOOOH!!! i just realised!!! The user of the template has to open it in Dreamweaver or Wordpad (some compatible editor) and put their email address into this following field, how can u have a registration form if it goes to my email address lol ;)
action="mailto: **** YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS **** "
If you read the "README", i actually tell the users to go through looking for **** SOMETHING **** in the two pages.
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I made that change using plain old notepad. So that's not the issue. Don't know why different systems have different results. Nothing you fixed made any difference here. I re-checked both versions of Opera as well as IE. Problems didn't change. I wasn't the only one that reported this. Fysack in this thread also had problems and I'm sure there are others.
That's ok. I'm using a different method to do registrations.
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We are up for any suggestions on the template, the template has come to a stage where its time to refine it, because it has all the features we wanted in it now.... spose a video player would be nice... possibilities are endless. But refining it is more important at the moment.
I am interested in this alternate registration method Maverick :), please share it. I want this template to be FULLY cross browser compatible, and at the moment that registration form is the most annoying thing.
Add me to your msn if you want to chat about hfs, or about anything in general, i am on it 24/7.
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I am interested in this alternate registration method Maverick :), please share it. I want this template to be FULLY cross browser compatible, and at the moment that registration form is the most annoying thing.
I have been using this method of registration for about a year. Works everytime and with any browser. I simply have a registration page with simple instructions that includes the info I need. The user creates a message. Puts in the required info. Uploads it. It's private & secure. I email him when it's complete. Done.