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ó ìåíÿ ñòîèò âåðñèÿ 0.9.4.11
 âèíäå ÕÐ âñå íîðìàëüíî, íî â 98(SE) ïðè çàïóñêå &RQ óõîäèò îêîëî 30% ðåñóðñîâ  :( . Ïðè ýòîì ñî âðåìåíåì óõîäèò åùå áîëüøå äî 40%  :(( . Ñîâìåñòíî ìîæíî çàïóñòèòü òîëüêî äåëôè è áîëüøå íè÷åãî - ïðîñòî íåõâàòàåò ðåñóðñîâ! Íåóæåëè ýòî ïðîáëåìû ñ &RQ ? Îáû÷íàÿ Àñüêà èòî ìåíüøå ðåñóðñîâ òðåáóåò ....
Êòî ïîäñêàæåò â ÷åì ïðîáëåìû? Ìîæåò âèíäà ãëþ÷íàÿ?

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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2003, 09:33:13 PM »
Ñïåöèàëüíî ïðîâåðèë â 2000-õ âèíäàõ.
&RQ ver. 0.9.4.12 â ïàìÿòè çàíèìàåò 1.5 ìá , ICQ ver. 2002a çàíèìàåò 15 ìá  8O
Äóìàþ 10 ðàç ýòî áîëåå ÷åì óáåäèòåëüíî  :D

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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2003, 10:46:19 AM »
Íó ôëèòâåð - þìîðèñò... 8O

Òåáå æå ðóññêèÿ ÿçûêîì íàïèñàëè 98ÿ Âèíäà!
À òû íà 2000é òåñòèðóåøü... :eek:

Ýòî ðàçíûå! (ïðèíöèïèàëüíî!) îïåðàöèîííûå ñèñòåìû!
Òû áû åùå íà ëèíóõå ïîãîíÿë! Â îáùåì æäåì òåñòåðà ñ 98îé.

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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2003, 10:48:42 AM »
È â äîãîíó ïðåäèäóùåìó...
Âîïðîñ - 30% ðåñóðñîâ (âèäèìî èìåëñÿ ââèäó ïðîöåññîð)
à îòâåò 2 ìåòðà ïàìÿòè :o
È êàê òóò ñðàâíèâàòü :?:

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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2003, 11:47:49 AM »
Ïîïðàâî÷êà - &RQ çàáèðàåò 30% (ïðèìåðíî) GDI ðåñóðñîâ ïàìÿòè! Ýòè ðåñóðñû ó 98-é âèíäû â îòëè÷èå îò 2000 èëè ÕÐ íå áåçãðàíè÷íû. ß ñîáñòâåííî è ñàì ñìîòðåë íà ÕÐ ÷òî &RQ çàíèìàåò ñîâñåì íåìíîãî... íî â 98-é ... óæàñ ... êóäà äåâàåòñÿ ñòîëüêî ðåñóðñîâ???

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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2003, 11:53:46 AM »
êñòàòè ãîâîðÿ âåðñèÿ 0.9.3.8 âîîáùå íå çàïóñêàåòñÿ - ñðàçó æå âûäà¸ò îøèáêó è âûâàëèâàåòñÿ. à â ÕÐ íîðìàëüíî ...
ß âîò ÷òî äóìàþ ... ìîæåò ýòî âèíäà? Èëè ïîñëåäñòâèÿ óäàëåííîãî âèðóñà I-worm.latin.m ...

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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2003, 11:14:15 AM »
Íåáîëüøàÿ ïîïðàâî÷êà...

Âî ïåðâûõ, îêîëî 20%-25% ðåñóðñîâ (î êîòîðûõ èä¸ò ðå÷ü) óæå çàíèìàåòñÿ âñåì áàðàõëîì (Windows, explorer, systemtray etc.).

Âî âòîðûõ, % ðåñóðñîâ çàâèñèò îò êîíêðåòíûõ îáú¸ìîâ òåõ ðåñóðñîâ.

 òðåòèõ, Win'98 âîîáùå íå ïîíÿòíî êàê îïðåäåëÿåò ïðîöåò ñâîáîäíûõ ðåñóðñîâ. Ïîýòîìó ñëåäóåò ãîâîðèòü î êîíêðåòíîé çàãðóçêå ïðîöåññîðà, ïàìÿòè, æ¸ñòêîãî äèñêà è ñåòåâûå ðåñóðñû.

Åñëè ãîâîðèòü î ÖÏ, òî åñòü íå ìàëî ïðîãðàìì (CoolCPU, CPUWhatcher è äðóãèå), êîòîðûå ïîêàçûâàþò ñîñòîÿíèå ÖÏ, â ïëîòü äî ñîñòîÿíèé åãî ðåãèñòðîâ. Ñàì íå ïðîâåðÿë ïðè &rq, äà è âîîáùå ìíå íåçà÷åì ýòè ïðîãðàììû... ÍÎ! Äëÿ ýêñïåðåìåíòà, äóìàþ êîìóòî çàõî÷åòñÿ ïðîâåðèòü...

Äëÿ ïðîñìîòðà îáú¸ìà çàíèìàåìîé ïàìÿòè êàæäîé ïðîãðàììîé - è äëÿ ýòîãî åñòü ñâîè Óàò÷åðû... Mem+ è äð...

Äëÿ Æåñòêèõ äèñêîâ - ïîñìîòðèòå ñâîéñòâî ñîîòâåòñòâåííîé ïàïêè.

Äëÿ ñåòåâûõ ðåññóðñîâ - ïîèùèòå ñåòåâûå ìîíèòîðû, à çà îäíî è ìíå ñêàæåòå ãäå íàøëè.

Ó ìåíÿ, íà Win'98 - îñòàþòñÿ 60% "òåõ ñàìûõ ðåññóðñîâ" à çàíÿòî ïðè &rq - 15-20%... Ïî òåì ïàðàìåòðàì, ÷òî îïèñàë âûøå - íå ïðîâåðÿë.

Æä¸ì òåñòåðîâ...

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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2003, 10:27:29 AM »
Äà óæ.... â Win98 êîøìàð ïðîèñõîäèò(((

 2000 (SP3, ñáîðêà 5.00.2195, ÖÏ-Pentium 866 Mhz, RAM-256 Mb DIMM):
ñâåðíóòûé "ôîíîâûé" ðåæèì: çàãðóçêà ÖÏ - 0-1%
èñïîëüç. ïàìÿòè - 1556 Kb;
ïðè "àêòèâíîé" ðàáîòå:     çàãðóçêà ÖÏ - 2% (âðåìåííûå ñêà÷êè ïðè íàãðóçêå (t<0.3c) äî 10%)
èñïîëüç. ïàìÿòè - äî 4756 Kb
I prefer Linux OS for develpment and server tasks.
How about you? :)

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2003, 10:31:44 AM »
äà, ýòè 20-25 ðåñóðñîâ çàíèìàþòñÿ ñ ñàìîãî íà÷àëà ...
Âîò ÿ è ãîâîðþ, ÷òî ïîñëå çàïóñêà &RQ ïîìèìî ýòèõ 20-òè óõîäèò åùå 30-òü ... è òîãî òîëüêî ëèø ïðè çàïóùåííîì &RQ îñòà¸òñÿ 50%, è ïîñòîÿííî óìåíüøàåòñÿ ... Äåëôè ñ êîòîðûì ÿ ðàáîòàþ çàáèðàåò åùå êàê ìèíèìóì 18%, åñëè åùå çàïóñòèòü èíòåðíåò ýêñïëîðåð òî íà÷èíàþò ñûïàòüñÿ îøèáêè "Canvas does not alow drawing." èëè ÷òî-òî òèïà, ÷òî ñâèäåòåëüñòâóåò îá îêîí÷àíèè ðåñóðñîâ GDI. ×òî ñàìîå èíòåðåñíîå - ÿ ýòîãî íèãäå åùå íå âèäåë!! Ïðàâäà íà 486-ì ñ 16Ì ïàìÿòè òàêîå ñëó÷àëîñü êîãäà çàïóñêàåø ìíîãî îêîí (áîëåå 8-ìè) IE.
(ñïàêóõà! &RQ òàì íåáûëî!!!).
Ïðè âûõîäå ñ &RQ âñå âîçâðàùàåòñÿ íà ñâîè ìåñòà.

Êîíôèãóðàöèÿ ìàøèíû: Celeron PIII - 1200, 128M âèäåî - NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 (64Ìá).
Windows - Win 98 4.10 (2222) A

Òà æå ñàìàÿ ôèøêà áûëà è ñ òðèëèàíîì - ñíà÷àëà îí ïðàêòè÷åñêè íå çàíèìàë ðåñóðñîâ ... à ñåé÷àñ òîæå îòíèìàåò îò ñâîáîäíûõ äîâîëüíî âíóøèòåëüíûé êóø. Âèäèìî ýòî ÷òî-òî ñ ñàìîé ñèñòåìîé ïðîèñõîäèò à íå ñ óêàçàííûìè ïðîãðàììàìè ...  Ìîæåò áûòü, òåîðåòè÷åñêè, ÷òî âèíäà íå äðóæèò ñ äðîâàìè âèäþõè. À ìîæåò ïîñëå âèðóñà...
Âîîáùå ìåíÿ èíòåðåñóåò âîïðîñ çàíèìàåìûõ ÐÅÑÓÐÑÎÂ à íå âèðòóàëüíîé ïàìÿòè è ðåñóðñîâ ïðîöåññîðà, èáî íåâîçìîæíî ðàáîòàòü â äåëôè ñîâìåñòíî ñ çàïóùåííîé &RQ, à äàæå ñ ICQ(2000) ðàíüøå òàêîãî íåáûëî.

À âîò íà ñ÷åò ïðîãðàììîê äëÿ ïðîñìîòðà çàíèìàåìîé ïàìÿòè, äàéòå ïëèç ïàðó ññûëîê! Òîæå èíòåðåñíî êóäà ïàìÿòü óõîäèò.

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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2003, 04:52:43 PM »
Quote from: "Rejetto"
Ïåðåâîä:
Îäèí ðàç â ãîä (ðàíüøå 2-à ðàçà) ÿ ðàáîòàþ íàä ïîíèæåíèåì èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ &RQ ñèñòåìíûõ ðåñóðñîâ Win98.

Ðàáîòàÿ íà NT ýòî (èñï. ðåñóðñîâ) òÿæåëî çàìåòèòü, êàê íàâåðíîå âñå âû çíàåòå ;-)

ß íå çíàþ êîãäà ÿ áóäó çàíèìàòüñÿ ýòèì â ñëåäóþùèé ðàç, ïîòîìó ÷òî ó ìåíÿ ìíîãî ðàáîòû è ÿ äîëæåí èñïðàâèòü íåêîòîðûå îøèáêè è ïîðàáîòàòü íàä äîïîëíèò. ôóíêöèÿìè â ïðîãðàììå.

Îäíàêî, åñòü âåðñèè &RQ (íàïèñàííûå ãîä íàçàä), êîòîðûå "ïîòðåáëÿþò"
ìåíüøå ðåñóðñîâ, êàê ìíå êàæåòñÿ.
I prefer Linux OS for develpment and server tasks.
How about you? :)

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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2003, 12:10:54 AM »
hm...stranno, vmesto postinga - odni  ???...gluck? :)
a skasat' ja hotel, chto est' oda programmulina -  Iarsn TaskInfo2003
(www.iarsn.com) dla monitoringa. Po-moemu, ochen' horoshaja vesh...
ja ee vmesto task manager'a v winxp ispol'suju - pokasivaet vse!
nu udachi!!!

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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2003, 01:50:53 PM »
Äåéñòâèòåëüíî êëàññíàÿ ïðîæêà.
Âñå áû áûëè òàêèå  :P
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2004, 12:32:45 PM »
íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíèìàþ ðå÷ü èäåò î GDI îáúåêòàõ, è ìîæåò áûòü äàæå î èõ ëèêàõ.
óñòðîèë íà ýòîò ñ÷åò íåáîëüøîå òåñòèðîâàíèå, êîòîðîå ïîêàçàëî, ÷òî ëèêîâ âðîäå êàê íåòó, íî âîò îäíà ïðîáëåìà êðûñà â èòîãå îòîæðàëà ïîðÿäêà 340 ñ õâîñòèêîì :) îáæåêòîâ. ×òî íàäî ñêàçàòü ñëåãêà ìíîãîâàòî äëÿ òàêîé ïðîãè. Àêêóðàòíåé íàäî òîâàðèç÷è ïðîãðàììåðû ñ GDI îáæåêòàìè...

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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2004, 05:15:38 PM »
ïîñòàâèë ñîôòèíêó ïîñëå ïðî÷òåíèÿ http://exler.ru/expromt/20-01-2004.htm. ÎÑ - 98-ÿ. Õì. Ðàáîòàåò êîíå÷íî î÷åíü ðåçâî. Íî ðåñóðñû åñò - ìàìà äîðîãàÿ :( Äàæå 2 àñüêè 2000Á, ðàáîòàþùèå ïàðàëëåëüíî - è òî ìåíüøå êóøàþò :( Îáèäíî, îäíàêî.

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2004, 04:16:20 PM »
Ñòîèò ó ìåíÿ 98 âèíäà, çàáèòûé òðåé äàæå ñ àíòèâèðóñîì, íèêàêîãî òîðìîçà ó ìåíÿ ÝÐÊÓ íå âûçûâàåò âîîáùå, äåëôà ïàðàëëåëüíî íîðìàëüíî ïàøåò. Íå çíàþ ïî÷åìó ó òåáÿ òàêàÿ áåäà.

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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2004, 08:41:31 PM »
Êàêé äåëôè? 1.0?  è ñêîëüêî ðåñóðñîâ îñòàåòñÿ ïðè ýòîì?
Äà è íèêòî âîáùåì íå ãîâîðèò ÷òî &RQ òîðìîçèò .... ïðîñòî çàáèðàåò ðåñóðñû ...