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Offline rejetto

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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2007, 02:14:43 AM »
in the link you posted before, edit controls are reported to have no limits under win9x

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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2007, 02:21:27 AM »
I referred more to this:
Quote from: article
GDI stands for Graphics Device Interface and is in charge of the visible components of Windows. It stores fonts, brushes, bitmaps, and other graphics stuff, as well as lends support to other graphic output devices such as printers.

Everyone owning Windows 9x could do the following to test

-SAVE YOUR STUFF!!!
-Now open as many windows as you can (or run some graphically-intensive programs)
-It doesn't take long before the fonts distort, you can't open more windows, you can't type text in Notepad, it may even freeze.


edit: Don't get me wrong, I don't say that it is the problem, but it could have to do with it. I recommended to run the resource monitor to remove it from the list of possibilities, but he hasn't done yet. Well, another possibility is a limitation in a DLL HFS makes use of...
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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2007, 02:49:20 AM »
yes, i have very little of system resources  :'(
sometimes i reloadin' computer that resources were restored...

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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2007, 03:06:47 AM »
Exactly what I mean. I did a test myself (You made me do it! lol)



You see what happens if you open too many windows here. What resource depletes first depends on the type of application you run.
I typed some text in Notepad2 and marked it (grey area). You can not even see it (it is text, no spaces)!



You see that even after closing the folders there are most funny things happening. Note that you never get all your resources back, some stay allocated and some are lost (resource leaking). You have to restart your computer to get 'em back.
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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2007, 03:14:08 AM »
yes, that's true.

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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2007, 11:44:54 PM »
Unfortunately, the only way to get rid of this limitation us to upgrade the OS, at least to Win2k. Here the resources are managed differently and are virtually unlimited (up to the RAM).

By the way, Windows 98 notepad can only load 64KiB of text, there must be some limitation in this OS. XP notepad can open much larger size.
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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2007, 12:15:51 AM »
Right now I'm testing the limits of the template editor. I will edit the results in as I get them:

Windows 95C: max. 34781 Bytes
Windows 98SE: max. 34781 Bytes
Windows ME: max. 34781 Bytes
Windows NT4 SP6a: virtually unlimited (Well I stopped at ~50 MiB...)
Windows XP SP2: unlimited, tested up to ~50 MiB

Forget about resources. This 9x limitation is present even with full resources.
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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2007, 06:03:57 AM »
Windows 2000 should run 'ok' on a 300mhz system with 256mb ram... it will be very slow boot, once it is up it should run fairly smooth... I have win2k pro on my sisters 500mhz 320mb ram machine, and it is reasonably fast.

But i would just stick to a little template below 35bytes :P, for my own curiosity does my template work with the win9x restrictions?

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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2007, 06:49:01 AM »
i used win2KProSP4, but it was very slow on my computer...

rejetto, can you make so that the size of a template didn't depend on resources of system?

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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2007, 07:28:21 AM »
If notepad in windows 98 has the same problem, then it is not a problem with HFS.

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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2007, 07:32:23 AM »
but Wordpad, Notepad++, Tigerpad & other doesn't have this problem

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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2007, 07:41:40 AM »
indeed it is possible

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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2007, 07:46:30 AM »
ok, thanks! i wait that fix in next release!  :D

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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2007, 07:48:45 AM »
possible doesn't mean that will be, or when...
you asked if it was feasible

anyway, i care about it and i will spend some time on it.
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Re: A problem with loading template
« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2007, 11:59:33 AM »
okay