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Offline rejetto

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These days i'm making some experiments on the possibility of having a new kind of folder, that will merge virtual and real ones. No more difference.
This would make the use of HFS much easier and handy, for everyone, experts and newbies.

Anyway, this experiment may fail, so don't give it for sure.
But if i reach a good result, it will be the heart of HFS 3.  ::)


EDIT: the official URL to download is http://www.rejetto.com/temp/vfs.exe
« Last Edit: November 13, 2006, 04:53:43 PM by rejetto »


Offline CeltiX

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Wow, sounds like a huge leap forward. I'm really looking forward to your progress (even if I do pester you over details sometimes :P)


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To most of you may seem a trivial task.
But if i delayed this thing for so long time, there is a reason.
It took 2 days just to make something able to add and remove files.  :o


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the experiment seems to be successful. :)
now i'm trying to monitor every change on the disk so that it is reflected by the VFS.

maybe a good thing to do would be to close 2.1, that is quite mature, and open a new development based on this new structure.

at the moment i can't say if HFS 3 will be compatible with old .vfs files.
i'll work on this problem later.


Offline ants

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Great work, I'd like to test it out? Maybey you could relase a version of it that we could test out?


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But if i delayed this thing for so long time, there is a reason.
It took 2 days just to make something able to add and remove files.  :o

 ;D

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now i'm trying to monitor every change on the disk so that it is reflected by the VFS.


great ! and in such case, could it possible to get a .txt file out of the Virtual  File System Screen ? in my mind something similar to this  :

« Last Edit: September 29, 2006, 05:50:08 AM by TCube »
Make it idiot-proof and I will make a better idiot


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Great work, I'd like to test it out? Maybey you could relase a version of it that we could test out?
at the moment this technology is not integrated in HFS. it is developed aside. it has no icons, no http. as soon as it is completed, i hope it won't take too much to be integrated it in HFS, like a week.

great ! and in such case, could it possible to get a .txt file out of the Virtual  File System Screen ? in my mind something similar to this  :
i don't understand how that picture is related to the .txt
can you just tell me what's the content you expecte by this txt?


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Actually the print screen is taken out emule statistics (you guessed it ) and two options might be worth to the ease of use when you get large libraires :

- the fact to get only one click to expand or collapse all sections
- to get in one click a "print to file" .txt visible from "visible banch" or all "branch and sections".
(html could be done also).

ex. of structure of branch and section in HFS:

Make it idiot-proof and I will make a better idiot


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i asked you for the content of a supposed txt.
anyway, i guess you want a "map" of your virtual file system in txt/html format. is it so?


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yes it is rejetto ! thanks for U to study that if no inconvenience.
Make it idiot-proof and I will make a better idiot


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ok, both features are accepted, but make your feature requests elsewhere. in this thread it is off topic.


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here you can preview the functionality of the new technology.
it is lacking everything else, and it is not useful for anything else but previewing the technology.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mf8vt1

1) see how you don't need to distinguish anymore between virtual and real folders.

2) moreover, you can do things you can't do with HFS2, like renaming a file inside a real-folder.

3) if you rename or delete a file on your disk, the virtual file system is automatically updated on the screen.

report your impressions and bugs, please.


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Looks very promissing.  :)

Did just some quick tests.
On adding a file to a real folder is displayed with full path, is this intentionally?

I still do not fully understand the consequences of the new design. Isn't a folder which i add in HFS3 and doesn't exist on my drive still a virtual folder?

Did some extreme test: /A/A/A/A.... and added test.txt to the folder A on my drive:
all A's did reflect test.txt on HFS3. Removing the test.txt from my drive required a page reload to reflect the change.

But anyway, very very promissing.
But in order to fully understand & test the preview, Rejetto, could you please comment on your intentions?
~GeeS~


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On adding a file to a real folder is displayed with full path, is this intentionally?
it is NOT. but i just tried and did not get this.
can you tell me exactly how you acted so i can reproduce?
tell me exact paths of the folder/files you move

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I still do not fully understand the consequences of the new design. Isn't a folder which i add in HFS3 and doesn't exist on my drive still a virtual folder?
yes, it is. the consequences are
1. you don't have to choice the kind of folder
2. you can do things you couldn't do before

so 1=easier, 2=more power

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Did some extreme test: /A/A/A/A.... and added test.txt to the folder A on my drive:
all A's did reflect test.txt on HFS3. Removing the test.txt from my drive required a page reload to reflect the change.
what you mean with "page reload" ?
ok, making this test i saw the "full path file". i will fix it ASAP and reupload.

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But in order to fully understand & test the preview, Rejetto, could you please comment on your intentions?
we'll discover this by confronting the behaviour, and trying to make it work as we want it to be.


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what you mean with "page reload" ?
I had to collapse the directory tree in HFS3 (-) and unfold it again (+) to get the change displayed.
~GeeS~