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Offline Markie

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Copyright in sharing music?
« on: February 07, 2016, 04:46:13 PM »
Hello guy,
i am new to HFS
Before starting off i wanted to ask a question about copyright
Is it legal to share music over HFS ?
I use DNS and send the DNS to my friends who want songs.
Some of them said sharing music is illegal and i may get fined 

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Re: Copyright in sharing music?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2016, 06:14:06 PM »
regardless of the software used to share works, that are under copyright license, and you are not the author is then illegal


the music sharing your use with hfs is your responsibility

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Re: Copyright in sharing music?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2016, 05:31:39 AM »
the music sharing your use with hfs is your responsibility
Exactly.

I use DNS and send the DNS to my friends who want songs.
Some of them said sharing music is illegal and i may get fined
It's true. In case you use this software to share music (for example, to listen your music collection (stored in your house) while you're working in the office), you should at least 'password' protect the content to avoid having problems.
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Re: Copyright in sharing music?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2016, 11:26:20 AM »
Exactly.
It's true. In case you use this software to share music (for example, to listen your music collection (stored in your house) while you're working in the office), you should at least 'password' protect the content to avoid having problems.

I am not sure but some IP from US keeps on viewing my server i am scared at this movement

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Re: Copyright in sharing music?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2016, 06:32:30 AM »
The only way to go "private" (and be 90% safe), is configuring a firewall (hard to setup) or installing PeerBlock (easier to install and manage) where you have HFS installed. If you install PeerBlock you have two options: a 'blacklist' (only blocking IP ranges you don't know), or a 'whitelist' (only allowing IP ranges YOU know are safe).

But if all this sound complicated, you may start putting all the music files on a unrelated and password protected folder. For example: You have a public folder called "MyFiles", which is password protected. Then, inside "MyFiles" folder, you have another folder called "MyMusic" (where you have all the MP3s). Nobody can see what you share inside "MyMusic" folder, since "MyFiles" folder is password protected first. Anybody who visits your server, should only see "MyFiles" folder. You should try this, at least.
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Re: Copyright in sharing music?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2016, 04:03:10 PM »
IT is different for other countries, there are international laws and other that can protect your rights to share the media... this info is for people in the USA...)

THE SHORT ANSWER
it legal to make backup copies of my CDs / DVDs
In short, it IS legal to make an "archival" copy of any DVD/CD content that you've legally purchased/acquired the rights to.
The terms of use of the subject content is what you must adhere to.

For example lets Take a look at a Microsoft Office or Win 7 DVD.
It states: "Do NOT lend or make "ILLEGAL" copies of this disc"
It does NOT state that you cannot make a copy (a legal one~ as a rightful license owner)

The key, is that a user adhere to the user license for/to the software/content that he/she purchases the right(s) to, and protecting it from illegal distribution/use.

Make a copy, and keep (archive) it safely stored away, and not only are you insuring your continued rights to the content but making a prudent decision in protecting your own right long-term.

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SO When it comes to sharing music, it comes down to how you are sharing and in what form / rights you have to use it in that media.

*The problem with the law :
IT ok to have it, it not okay on how you obtain it!

now then lets get to your rights:

IN the USA there are digital backup right that claim that you can take and form of data "Move / Music / etc..." and back it up to a digital medium of your choice for your OWN personal use!...

So, you purchase a Music cd/ or download form ITunes (a legal place that gives you the song!.. There is normal a license agreement between digital downloads!...)

anyways lets say you buy a cd..., A cd in time get old / scratch / and become unusable, you have the right to "rip" the music off on to your personal computer! At that time it is considered a digital backup!

BUT Only if you have the file form where you obtain it! ..

In Digital Backup form, you have full RIGHT to listen and use the music....

NOW since it on your computer, and you want to listen to your Digital backup anywhere as the cd may no longer be working! great, there are many ways to do that..

BUT by LAW! Only you Must have access to that "STREAM"!
(THIS IS NORMALLY DONE WITH PASSWORD PROTECTION!)

You decide to use HFS, HFS will let you stream and give some protection to content being shared!

IF you want to openly share that backup, you must have a LICENSE "such as a radio station!)

(had a friend use HFS as a media for a radio station for XMB and HTTP stream!.. There are license for it:)
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LICENSING

Voluntary vs. Statutory Licensing

Pursuant to U.S. copyright law, copyright owners are guaranteed certain exclusive rights in their copyrighted material, including the right to:

Reproduce the work
Distribute copies
Perform the work publicly (in the case of a sound recording by means of a digital audio transmission)
Create a derivative work
Display the work publicly
These exclusive rights are intended to strike a delicate balance between encouraging the dissemination of information to the public and ensuring that copyright owners are fairly compensated, and thus provided the incentive to continue to create. As part of this balance, copyright owners are free to permit others to exercise some of the copyright owner’s rights through the means of a license.

 

Voluntary License

Most of the time, licenses are granted voluntarily by copyright owners for a negotiated fee and pursuant to agreed upon terms and conditions. These are called voluntary (or direct) licenses. Licenses usually take the form of a written contract that specifies the owner of the copyright, what rights are being granted, the term of the license, and the royalties, if any, to be paid the copyright owner.

For example, an individual or business that wishes to offer sound recordings for download must, in most situations, obtain a license from the sound recording copyright owner. Such a license would be between the sound recording copyright owner (usually a recording company) and the individual or business that wants to use the sound recording, and would state each party’s rights and obligations. If at any point the individual or business desired to use the sound recording for a purpose not covered in the license, they first would need to enter into a new license agreement with the sound recording copyright owner that covered this new use.

Common examples of when you need a voluntary license include:

Using a sound recording in a movie, music video, commercial or other audiovisual work. If you want to use a sound recording in an audiovisual work, you need a synchronization license, so called because the music is “synched” to the visual images. This is true whether you’ve already created your visual work and want to put some music under it or you just want the music for your movie, commercial, music video, documentary, sitcom, or any kind of audio/visual presentation, no matter where it is aired, even the Internet. Synchronization licenses are granted by individual sound recording copyright owners.
Offering music videos to view or copy. Music videos are called “audiovisual works” and are licensed by the creator of the video. Often times the record company that produced the sound recording in the video owns the music video itself. Look for the © on the video for the copyright owner. Music videos are licensed for streaming or downloading by individual copyright owners.
Using a 30 second clip. Rumors abound that using 30 seconds or less of a song does not require a license. Not true. Although some uses of small amounts of music are considered fair use and do not require a license (see copyright section for a definition of fair use), generally speaking, the use of any part of a song requires a license. So, if you perform, reproduce or distribute clips, you should contact the sound recording copyright owner for a license. Note that offering clips on-demand does not qualify for a statutory license.
Selling compilation CDs. Many new businesses are offering consumers the ability to choose recordings and combine them on one CD. In order to do that, the business needs a license to reproduce and distribute those recordings. These licenses are granted by individual copyright owners.
To offer digital downloads. If you want to offer digital downloads of music (whether they are for sale or not), you need a license. Those licenses are granted by individual copyright owners.
Offering a jukebox on the Internet. Interactive services do not qualify for a statutory license. Instead, such operators must obtain performance licenses from individual copyright owners. According to the Copyright Act, interactive services include those that permit a listener to choose a particular song and those that create a personalized program for the listener. If copies were being made into the computer server, operators would need to negotiate reproduction rights also.
To offer a download or performance to someone outside the United States. Copyright law is territorial. In other words, U.S. law covers only reproductions, distributions and performances that occur in the United States. So for any uses of copyrighted sound recordings outside the United States you would need a separate license from the owner of the recording that covers the territory in question.
When operating abroad, check local copyright law on two issues. 1) What are the rights of the copyright owner in that country? 2) Who do you contact to negotiate rights? If you are dealing with a major company it is likely to have an affiliate overseas, otherwise look to collecting societies.
 

Statutory Licenses

The U.S. Congress has determined that, in certain limited circumstances and for public policy reasons, the government should determine the terms, conditions, and rates for a limited class of copyright licenses. For example, such a government created license may enable licensees to avoid entering into separate negotiations with numerous individual copyright holders, and thus create efficiencies that benefit society as a whole. Such licenses are called statutory (or compulsory) licenses, and generally the fee in such situations is paid according to a rate set by law, called a “statutory rate.”

In the music world, some types of performance and reproductions of sound recordings qualify for a statutory license. The most common type of use covered by these statutory licenses is for non-interactive webcasting or Internet radio. The sound recordings that you might hear through a satellite system in your car, or at home over your digital cable service, also are provided pursuant to a statutory license.

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you were claiming ip were connecting to you, if you that concerned ban them form the server...
« Last Edit: February 09, 2016, 09:12:25 PM by bmartino1 »
I'm only trying to help i mean no offense.
thank you for your time and patience,
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Re: Copyright in sharing music?
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2016, 06:58:29 AM »
@bmartino1: You're like a dictionary, lol. :P Long, but good answer.
Anyway, all this 'legal' explanation is outside the scope of this forum, IMHO...

@Markie: About this matter, HFS is not different than OwnCloud, or any other software that let you host your files by yourself. Nevertheless, I recommend you to always stay legal and keep safe, by only sharing music without copyright (Royalty free).

If you like to share music, and want to be 100% safe, you can find music files in Musopen.org, and many other similar places. If you are in doubt about this, it's better to use Mega.nz, instead of having troubles with your ISP (since they may send you a 'DMCA notice', if you live in USA).

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Royalty free music:
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http://musopen.org/
http://bensound.com/
http://freeplaymusic.com/
http://freemusicarchive.org/
https://creativecommons.org/legalmusicforvideos/


It's all I have to say about this (since copyright is an endless topic). There are literally thousands of threads on internet talking about copyright. Personally, I'm more a freedom believer, than a copyright guy. So, if you have any technical issue with HFS, or any other question about any other topic, just ask... ;)
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Re: Copyright in sharing music?
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2016, 02:02:09 AM »
Hello guy,
i am new to HFS
Before starting off i wanted to ask a question about copyright
Is it legal to share music over HFS ?
I use DNS and send the DNS to my friends who want songs.
Some of them said sharing music is illegal and i may get fined

yea ofcourse it illegal, power up man, and smoke a join while you doing it *thubsupslutassiphoneemoji*
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