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Software => HFS ~ HTTP File Server => Beta => Topic started by: rejetto on July 11, 2007, 05:33:07 AM

Title: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 11, 2007, 05:33:07 AM
download at www.dovedove.it/hfs/hfs117.exe

what's new
- bad behaviour when the port is busy
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: TSG on July 11, 2007, 05:38:18 AM
Can you put a letter space before the word 'Port' in the next beta :) Cause you have one after the port number and the text isn't center on the button, other than that its a snazzy feature... and i cant seem to find any strange behavior on when the server is in use and you change port now.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: radd on July 11, 2007, 06:36:22 AM
i love the new look, i think less confusing for newcomers. congrats and thanks
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: KalleB on July 11, 2007, 11:35:51 AM
Looks very very good now.. and seems stable enough to me (exept the small-file-uploading bug and autoupdate bug on one of my machines - other 3 work ok). So I'd say we're quite ready for stable release...

EDIT: You might also fix these two double separators:
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: radd on July 11, 2007, 12:15:09 PM
this is only small problem. when i run hfs, for the 1st time, open other option> user accounts.. the new window will fall to the back of main window. but no serious prob actually, we still can select the account window, and if we close and open the account window again it will open normally.

i,ve tried many times and it happens. i dont know if this thing call "bugs"

however, the problem is nothing actually. not a big deal

Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Flynsarmy on July 11, 2007, 01:11:13 PM
It would make a little more sense if the port change alertbox was reworded. If you enter
80.5 it says 'Numbers only' but 80.5 is a number...
Maybe 'Valid integers between 1 and 57599 only' would be a more appropriate message.

Also, why was the 'on' button removed? If i've kept my VFS but have lost my settings file,
I have lost all my user account information and my HFS is vulnerable until i create a
temporary account to block everything with. It made more sense to have the on-off button,
even if it's the first item in the 'Menu' drop down for security purposes.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: radd on July 11, 2007, 01:52:01 PM
Also, why was the 'on' button removed? If i've kept my VFS but have lost my settings file,
I have lost all my user account information and my HFS is vulnerable until i create a
temporary account to block everything with. It made more sense to have the on-off button,
even if it's the first item in the 'Menu' drop down for security purposes.

im sorry but i dont understand how on/off button have something to do with option file? actually the function (on/off) is still there, on in normal condition, we can turn it off in the menu then on again by click at button appeared only in off mode. the different from previous- location of the button. isnt it?
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: TSG on July 11, 2007, 01:55:32 PM
you are correct radd. there is no need for the old button anymore.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 11, 2007, 02:01:13 PM
the point is: you rarely need to turn it OFF, so why keep it in your face?

the button to turn ON is in your face just because newbies need a message to know it is OFF, and the message is also a button to turn ON.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: radd on July 11, 2007, 02:08:12 PM
the point is: you rarely need to turn it OFF, so why keep it in your face?

the button to turn ON is in your face just because newbies need a message to know it is OFF, and the message is also a button to turn ON.

yeah.. very true. i just exit the prog instead turn it off. as long as i remember, i only use off button to change port number.. which is not necessary anymore since now we can change it without turn off
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 11, 2007, 02:37:22 PM
It would make a little more sense if the port change alertbox was reworded. If you enter
80.5 it says 'Numbers only' but 80.5 is a number...
Maybe 'Valid integers between 1 and 57599 only' would be a more appropriate message.

for a techie... i guess most people prefer something like (not necessarily exactly) "numbers only"
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 11, 2007, 03:39:49 PM
Can you put a letter space before the word 'Port' in the next beta :) Cause you have one after the port number

there's no letter space after... the lack of space before is caused by the lack of icon.
i have no good/neat/nice icon for it. you can propose.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Cisco on July 11, 2007, 04:32:36 PM
hey rejetto i cant say i like this build i dont like the new look i like the old look better and how it worked i've been using this program for over a year now and i love it but how it is now and you removed the on and off thing and how you changed things around i cant say im likeing the program as much can you change the old look back please and thanks i normally do not post on here but i had to as i dont wanna see this happen to the program thanks
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: TSG on July 11, 2007, 05:22:56 PM
hey rejetto i cant say i like this build i dont like the new look i like the old look better and how it worked i've been using this program for over a year now and i love it but how it is now and you removed the on and off thing and how you changed things around i cant say im likeing the program as much can you change the old look back please and thanks i normally do not post on here but i had to as i dont wanna see this happen to the program thanks

I am unsure if this is spam, it has no punctuation at all. What is the point of the post? You don't like not having the On/Off button?

It had no purpose? Why have useless objects on the interface. There is no need to turn the server on or off? Close HFS and its off?

I have not once had a need for the the On/Off button. Except of course when I first started up my HFS and input the port i wanted to listen on. Since then. I just close HFS to turn off.

I have added a Poll to this thread.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: ~GeeS~ on July 11, 2007, 06:12:17 PM
just passing by ... not much time anymore.
The old look is much more intuitive. just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 11, 2007, 06:17:03 PM
I am unsure if this is spam, it has no punctuation at all.

it's a regular post for sure.
it is normal some won't like the new GUI from the beginning.
and maybe some won't like it ever.
most things in life are questionable, and you can't please everyone.
there are several pro's for the new GUI. i'd like to hear any real pro for the old GUI that is not just "habits".
let see the poll where it goes.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: KalleB on July 11, 2007, 06:32:15 PM
Heh..people are talking about "old look" when the difference between old and new is _one_ button :D ..well I like the "new look" anyway.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Giant Eagle on July 11, 2007, 07:32:00 PM
heh XD i keep pressing 'Port' instead of 'menu', as i was used to that location.

This week, i used an old version of HFS and thought that the "Open in browser" feature was yet to be implemented, but in fact, it was there but on a different place. I can remember that ppl complained about having that button replaced. but eventually you'll get used to everything :) just like this.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Hax0r4d on July 11, 2007, 09:53:55 PM
I did like the "old" GUI cause i used to serve on a time schedule due to limited bandwidth.
So it was easy to turn the server in  ON/OFF modus by just 1 mouse click.
But as a server is ment to run 24/day then its understandable that the button is moved from the GUI.
Also the new GUI has a professional look ;)
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 11, 2007, 10:09:26 PM
So it was easy to turn the server in  ON/OFF modus by just 1 mouse click.

just press F4
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Hax0r4d on July 11, 2007, 10:12:13 PM
So it was easy to turn the server in  ON/OFF modus by just 1 mouse click.

just press F4

Hmmm thats indeed my solution.
Thanks :D
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: maverick on July 11, 2007, 10:48:13 PM
The only thing I would suggest with this On/Off button controversy is the following:

1.  To turn off the server, you have to go to Menu -> Switch Off or press F4.  To do this the GUI has to be visible or restored to screen.

2.  My preferred method is not to restore HFS GUI first *but* to right click the HFS tray icon and select Switch OFF.

3.  When the server is turned off by 2. the right click tray menu option Switch OFF is removed.  I would suggest that a Switch ON tray menu option replace it so the GUI doesn't have to be restored first to turn the server back on.

Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: MarkV on July 11, 2007, 11:37:41 PM
3.  When the server is turned off by 2. the right click tray menu option Switch OFF is removed.  I would suggest that a Switch ON tray menu option replace it so the GUI doesn't have to be restored first to turn the server back on.

Yes, this indeed makes sense. I think it has just been forgotten.

There even could be commandlime options to use with the Windows task scheduler:

Code: [Select]
hfs.exe /switch=<ON,OFF>
I guess they would work even when running HFS as a service (and you don't have a tray icon at all).
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: radd on July 11, 2007, 11:50:20 PM

3.  When the server is turned off by 2. the right click tray menu option Switch OFF is removed.  I would suggest that a Switch ON tray menu option replace it so the GUI doesn't have to be restored first to turn the server back on.



i agree
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 12, 2007, 12:59:22 AM
a Switch ON tray menu option replace it so the GUI doesn't have to be restored first to turn the server back on.

sure it will

There even could be commandlime options to use with the Windows task scheduler:
Code: [Select]
hfs.exe /switch=<ON,OFF>

well...  the -a option (http://www.rejetto.com/wiki/?title=HFS:_Command_line_parameters) let you do such things. but it is unhandy because it needs you to create a text file. in the future it will be possible to pass any ini command via the command line.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: maverick on July 12, 2007, 01:37:59 AM
a Switch ON tray menu option replace it so the GUI doesn't have to be restored first to turn the server back on.

sure it will


I don't understand your reply  ???  Does that mean you will be adding a missing Switch ON tray menu option or does your reply mean something else ???
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 12, 2007, 01:40:34 AM
yes, next build
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: maverick on July 12, 2007, 02:07:29 AM
Thanks rejetto.  :)
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Flynsarmy on July 12, 2007, 02:13:12 AM
Sorry, didn't realise the on/off button was still there. Didn't see it in the menu. I'm still having a problem
where i have 'max simultaneous downloads from a single address' at 2 but my brother is able to create
4 downloads with his download manager. Is this because all 4 connections are downloading the same file
and as such are not treated as individual downloads? If i set the 'max simultaneous connections' it'd
probably count the HTML connection(s) so that's no help either as sometimes browsers create many
connections
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 12, 2007, 02:17:58 AM
i have 'max simultaneous downloads from a single address' at 2 but my brother is able to create
4 downloads with his download manager. Is this because all 4 connections are downloading the same file
and as such are not treated as individual downloads?

no, it should count it 4, so it seems like a bug
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: TSG on July 12, 2007, 05:05:12 AM
Sorry, didn't realise the on/off button was still there. Didn't see it in the menu. I'm still having a problem
where i have 'max simultaneous downloads from a single address' at 2 but my brother is able to create
4 downloads with his download manager. Is this because all 4 connections are downloading the same file
and as such are not treated as individual downloads? If i set the 'max simultaneous connections' it'd
probably count the HTML connection(s) so that's no help either as sometimes browsers create many
connections

Do you have 'prevent download accelerators' turned off? Me and Giant Eagle were doing a transfer last night of some classic n64 roms 'Z OoT' u can work out what that means urself lol. But when he had 'prevent download accelators' on, i could only get a maximum of 20kb\s with FDM. Once removed and i reconnected with FDM (free download manager). I was able to make 8 connections and download at 64kb\s.... so there is something working there.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Foggy on July 12, 2007, 09:17:26 AM
I found that if you right click in the white space of the folder and you get the menu to add another folder etc, The advanced menu option is still there.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: maverick on July 12, 2007, 09:26:50 AM
I found that if you right click in the white space of the folder and you get the menu to add another folder etc, The advanced menu option is still there.

I'm not sure I understand your posting.  But Yes the advanced menu option is there to make those features available for the folder/file(s) etc.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: radd on July 12, 2007, 10:08:48 AM
I found that if you right click in the white space of the folder and you get the menu to add another folder etc, The advanced menu option is still there.

I'm not sure I understand your posting.  But Yes the advanced menu option is there to make those features available for the folder/file(s) etc.

are u trying to say even though advance is there, no submenu will comeout (if right click on white space, not a folder).  hmm, i just realize it. so i think advance should not appear if right click on white space.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: radd on July 12, 2007, 11:51:50 AM
Can you put a letter space before the word 'Port' in the next beta :) Cause you have one after the port number

there's no letter space after... the lack of space before is caused by the lack of icon.
i have no good/neat/nice icon for it. you can propose.

i found this. what do u think? sorry, out of topic
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 12, 2007, 12:06:25 PM
I found that if you right click in the white space of the folder and you get the menu to add another folder etc, The advanced menu option is still there.

fixed

i found this. what do u think? sorry, out of topic

it's nice thanks, but i found another that fit at low resolution
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: radd on July 12, 2007, 12:17:40 PM
its ok, thanks by the way. im looking fwd to next stable version. wassai
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Foggy on July 12, 2007, 02:45:49 PM
so i think advance should not appear if right click on white space.
yes thats what I meant but Rejettos fixed it now anyway.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Giant Eagle on July 13, 2007, 12:16:52 AM
Me and Giant Eagle were doing a transfer last night of some classic n64 roms 'Z OoT' u can work out what that means urself lol.

i thought we kept that a secret ;D

Do you have 'prevent download accelerators' turned off?  he had 'prevent download accelators' on, i could only get a maximum of 20kb\s with FDM. Once removed and i reconnected with FDM (free download manager). I was able to make 8 connections and download at 64kb\s.... so there is something working there.

other than that, if you set a limit to 2, i dont think it should make 4 connections. I didnt set any limits, so 8 connections were allowed. Want us to run some tests on this?
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: maverick on July 13, 2007, 12:30:10 AM
If you set a limit of 2 you should only see 2 connections from the same IP.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Nighted on July 14, 2007, 10:23:50 AM
The button was superfluous. I never used it.

This build looks great! Hurry and find a port icon please! ;)

P.S.

Still want a way to change the default folder icons!!!
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: radd on July 14, 2007, 03:00:56 PM
Still want a way to change the default folder icons!!!

u can change it in template. or u mean about icon in GUI?
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 15, 2007, 02:28:33 AM
i have 'max simultaneous downloads from a single address' at 2 but my brother is able to create
4 downloads with his download manager.

i made a test with this feature, setting it to 1, and the second connection was suddenly stopped.
can you double check or try to reproduce the problem on another HFS ?
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 15, 2007, 02:29:17 AM
This build looks great! Hurry and find a port icon please! ;)

already found

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Still want a way to change the default folder icons!!!

as radd says, just edit the [folder] section
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 15, 2007, 02:31:24 AM
(exept the small-file-uploading bug and autoupdate bug on one of my machines - other 3 work ok).

what a pain in the ass

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EDIT: You might also fix these two double separators:

i have no idea on what to do with it
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: TSG on July 15, 2007, 04:23:19 AM
Voting has closed. New interface Wins 11 over 4.  :D
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Nighted on July 15, 2007, 06:28:37 AM
Yes, thanks. I still think a user should be able to set an icon mask for folders.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 15, 2007, 01:42:48 PM
Yes, thanks. I still think a user should be able to set an icon mask for folders.

you already requested, and it is in the to do-list.

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+ "Folder image mask", a file mask indicating the file that should be used as ~img_folder

stop asking :P
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 15, 2007, 01:44:38 PM
Voting has closed. New interface Wins 11 over 4.  :D

and i believe a couple of those 4 just need some time to get used...
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Nighted on July 15, 2007, 04:07:49 PM
oh, you remembered!  ;D
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: darkmatter on July 15, 2007, 08:49:47 PM
NONONONONONONONONONO
NO
NO
NO
NO
i want the on off switch back....... i dono if the server is on r not......... and i use it a crap load too!
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Giant Eagle on July 15, 2007, 10:02:20 PM
Menu -> Switch off ;D
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: rejetto on July 16, 2007, 12:48:58 AM
i want the on off switch back....... i dono if the server is on r not.........

calm down ;)
when it is ON if see see nothing special.
when it is OFF you see a big red button.

then point is: being ON is a natural condition for a running software, just being OFF need to be reported.

you need an immediate switch off? press F4.
Title: Re: Testing build #117
Post by: Foggy on July 17, 2007, 02:10:49 PM
All is good, Im used to the new interface now. ;)
It looks pretty good. except i gotta stop clicking the port button to goto the menu.