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Software => HFS ~ HTTP File Server => Topic started by: tijek on March 27, 2010, 02:49:10 PM

Title: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: tijek on March 27, 2010, 02:49:10 PM
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Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition
Post by: rejetto on March 27, 2010, 03:00:41 PM
what should that mean?
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition
Post by: Mars on March 27, 2010, 04:03:31 PM
In any case if we did not understand the question, the drawing is very nicely decorated  ;)

I believe to understand his request.

The answer will be simple and short, hfs is developed in delphi language and only useful under a Microsoft environment Windows (not under windows CE) ;)
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition
Post by: tijek on March 28, 2010, 04:51:21 PM
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I don't know how can it do, What do I do.  ???
I can a few programming in java two micro edition.
We will could co-operate on the hfs.jar.

Or

I could to receive from autor hfs.exe how do I do the easiest.
Please help me.

Or

if anyone could it do then I had been appreciative.
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: rejetto on March 28, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
I don't know how can it do, What do I do.  ???

you should master java programming, then java mobile programming. Then you'll know what to do.

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We will could co-operate on the hfs.jar.

i'm sorry, but i don't have the time.

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I could to receive from autor hfs.exe how do I do the easiest.

receive what ? i don't understand :/
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: tijek on March 29, 2010, 04:15:22 AM
;)
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I could to receive from autor hfs.exe how do I do the easiest.
receive what ? i don't understand :/
suffice anything to coversion to the java two micro edition. ::)  ;)
 e. g. ::)   ;)
 (*.pas)    I conversed to java   (*.java)   netbens compiled it to (*.class) and creating archive (hfs.jar)

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I give you the file *.java ,*.class and hfs.jar hfs.jad. ::)  
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: rejetto on March 29, 2010, 11:26:48 AM
i doubt you will find an automatic converter.
you can try to manually convert the sources.
it may take you a month or several months to do it. good luck ;)
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: tijek on March 30, 2010, 06:49:14 AM
I do majority copy down.
I few conversing:

:=  to the =
name_function;  to the name_function ();
procedure         tothe   void function
ect.

if will be a complication then I will been slower, but
I will be finding program auto-coversion.
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: SilentPliz on March 30, 2010, 07:12:29 AM
 :o ::) ;)

If it's so simple ... I make a Linux HFS tomorrow ... or after tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: rejetto on March 30, 2010, 10:35:38 AM
it's like thinking you can correctly translate polish to english just by translating single words.
you'll find yourself it's much more than that.
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: bacter on March 30, 2010, 04:36:14 PM
Silenpliz:
When you finish your linux-port after-tomorrow .. you could make it run on android next weekend .. so we could enjoy to have our servers in a mobile phone ... please add also information how to pay some GBytes of downloads from our phones every month  ;D
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: SilentPliz on March 30, 2010, 05:27:12 PM
Easy! I found a program that transforms the value of all tickets:


5 €  -> 20 €
10 €  -> 200 €
100 €  -> 500 €


 ;)
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: Mars on March 30, 2010, 07:18:48 PM
for each € i give you one $  ;D
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: tijek on April 07, 2010, 11:33:33 PM
I have low-cost of phone internet.
I want it used.
Therefor I finding a server http
and incidentally I want maked the a server http for anythink as  hfs as  ... .
 :)
sorry, but don't to know writing of english language.
I lern english language and writing as writing as.
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: SamePaul on April 09, 2010, 12:59:15 PM
:o ::) ;)

If it's so simple ... I make a Linux HFS tomorrow ... or after tomorrow. :)
I guess you have finished Linux HFS? :D

Quote from: tijek
I have low-cost of phone internet.
I want it used.
1. Your phone must me connected to Internet ALWAYS. I doubt it is possible. Mobile ISP have very short idle-disconnect time. Your server should continuously communicate with outside server to keep connection alive.
2. Even when it is connected I don't think your phone is accessible from the Internet. I even doubt it has proper external IP :)
3. Why would you need such server? The whole idea of HFS - make home computer's data mobile and accessible from remote location. But your phone is ALREADY mobile along with all its data.
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: rejetto on April 09, 2010, 02:19:51 PM
@samepaul
even if i agree with you about usefulness, i must say my mobile isp doesn't disconnect me in a short time, and i get an internet IP address :)
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: SamePaul on April 09, 2010, 04:27:44 PM
@samepaul
even if i agree with you about usefulness, i must say my mobile isp doesn't disconnect me in a short time, and i get an internet IP address :)

how do you know?
Have you installed some kind of server on your phone and connected to it from outside via Internet?
And how do you know that ISP does not disconnect you? 1st of all, your own phone does it just to save batteries. It keeps TCP sessions however to make it transparent for client software. Thus GMaps client (for example) has it's connection whenever it needs to download maps from Google servers, but the connection is not physically persistent - connection indicator goes off when application is inactive for a while.
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: rejetto on April 09, 2010, 04:42:01 PM
about the external address, i know it because i use my mobile connection also to connect my laptop (tethering?), and HFS passes the self-test this way.
i guess i get the same address on the mobile phone, although i'm not sure.

i didn't say i don't get disconnected, but not in a short time. I say it by the connection indicator in the top left (i have a nokia). Some details: a year ago, all worked fine, and closing the last internet application automatically caused the connection to be closed. Since some time, this is no more, sadly, and i have to close the connection manually. (luckily there's a decent shortcut for it). This way, sometimes i find my phone connected with no internet application open since long, and my battery clearly wasted and the phone warmer than usual.
This may not be a scientific proof, but it's surely suggesting what i stated, don't you think?
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: SamePaul on April 09, 2010, 05:42:46 PM
about the external address, i know it because i use my mobile connection also to connect my laptop (tethering?), and HFS passes the self-test this way.
i guess i get the same address on the mobile phone, although i'm not sure.
That what I thought about! :)
Using mobile phone as GPRS modem is not exactly the same case. Just to make it clear - remember regular phone modems? We used it to connect to ISP via phone lines. And your computer gets IP, but not the modem. Moreover, for the modem the "IP" idea didn't make sense as the whole infrastructure was based on absolutely different principles. Same for GPRS modem.
For the phone itself the situation can be a bit different. Using NAT for this purpose seems pretty expected for me. Moreover, considering regular use case of cellular internet (as opposite to computer internet) when connections are short-living and need immediate availability, managing local IP-pool would be much more efficient.
Still, it's just my assumption and can be true for one mobile operator, but wrong for another.

This may not be a scientific proof, but it's surely suggesting what i stated, don't you think?
Sounds pretty weird to me, but I can't say "it doesn't exist" just because I didn't experience it myself. Both my last phones indicated disconnection (Nokia and Sony-Ericsson). Actually it makes sense that ISP does not disconnect you. They can charge even when you don't really use Internet :) Ok, ISP is not guilty! :)

Anyway, I stated it previously, keeping connection alive is not really problem - server can send dummy data every while. But good point about batteries ;)
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: tijek on April 17, 2010, 07:35:49 PM
 ;) IP external is not const, but it don't problem's.
 ;) dns server is very many. e.g. no-ip.pl(free), or home.pl(one payable domain).
 ;) loading battery in (mobile) phone is perchance whereas laptop is on, power grid,
    of battery full (4.5Volt) or of other source e.g. mobile loader or stationary loader.
 ;) I don't have servers and client indykator(http://willow.iie.uz.zgora.pl/~i54291/wskaznik.jpg)(http://willow.iie.uz.zgora.pl/~i54291/web.jpg)(http://willow.iie.uz.zgora.pl/~i54291/telefon.jpg)
 ;) I haven't two laptops-or-computers.

city and center city:
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it is "my day-plan everyday".

Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: SamePaul on April 17, 2010, 08:14:38 PM
;) I haven't two laptops-or-computers.
Then why you need hfs on phone?
Title: Re: aaa ... hfs in the a java 2 micro edition (new)
Post by: rejetto on April 18, 2010, 07:04:55 AM
@samepaul
indeed, battery is a major problem, and so goes with the heat and extra radio activity applied to my poor body.