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Software => HFS ~ HTTP File Server => Topic started by: ataxy on February 24, 2006, 03:08:35 PM

Title: a very big VFS
Post by: ataxy on February 24, 2006, 03:08:35 PM
i have a problem with beta37 everytime i load my vfs it hangs about a third of the way in its loading of it, task manager says not responding even if i let it go for 30 min
dont know if this will help but here are my computer spec
Athlon64 3000+
2gig pc3200
320gig hdd total
lan on cable isp 7.5mb/900kb
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: Azag on February 24, 2006, 08:29:05 PM
Quote from: "ataxy"
i have a problem with beta37 everytime i load my vfs it hangs about a third of the way in its loading of it, task manager says not responding even if i let it go for 30 min
dont know if this will help but here are my computer spec
Athlon64 3000+
2gig pc3200
320gig hdd total
lan on cable isp 7.5mb/900kb

That is strange what are your setting or setup (what if any Limits and options checked or unchecked, ect..)  I have a big .vfs file it's about 1.57MB with 8152 files in system currently so my takes a while to load but only 2 to 3 minutes and doesn't hang just takes some CPU cycles when loading but it goes to 1% or 0% CPU use by HFS.exe after all is loaded.  Never had a problem unless I mistakenly allow more than oen instance but I don't. I did try this a few times for test but have no need for it. Do you run a firewall or IDS that might not like it?
In my personally setup I have speed limit:disabled,  pause streaming (unchecked), Max connections: disabled, Max connections for single address: 16, Max Simultaneous Downloads: disabled, Max Simultaneous Downloads from Single Address: 2,  Max Simultaneous Addresses: disabled, Max Simultaneous Addresses Downloading: disabled,  Connection Inactivity Timeout: 300  (this is the standard for most web browsers and servers from my understanding), also note Persistant Conections and Compressed Browsing are both checked (on).  Don't know if this helps but it might be worth a try or at least some of it.  I don't know your current setup or bandwidth so it is hard to say much. If anyone knows a setting I should change or play around with adjusting suggestions are always welcome and I like to try anything to test to see a possible improvement or better stability for me or visitor/downloaders.   maverick good info to know btw. Later all have a great weekend.  :)  :drunk:
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: Azag on February 24, 2006, 08:33:57 PM
Quote from: Azag
Quote from: "ataxy"
i have a problem with beta37 everytime i load my vfs it hangs about a third of the way in its loading of it, task manager says not responding even if i let it go for 30 min
dont know if this will help but here are my computer spec
Athlon64 3000+
2gig pc3200
320gig hdd total
lan on cable isp 7.5mb/900kb

Well I missed your bandwidth/connection type info in last post but I see that shouldn't be an issue. Nice speed.  Doubt speed would have a bit to do with loading on start up at all anyhow.  In fact I am sure it wouldn't in your situation.  ;) I should have read that better.
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: maverick on February 24, 2006, 09:55:23 PM
Quote from: "ataxy"
everytime i load my vfs it hangs about a third of the way in its loading of it, task manager says not responding even if i let it go for 30 min
It sounds to me that your vfs is corrupt.  Create a new vfs (to replace the one you have now), save it, and see if that works better.
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: ataxy on February 25, 2006, 08:17:41 PM
i would really like to send you my vfs rejetto but its 15.7mb, yes i know it is huge
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2006, 01:21:15 AM
Quote from: "ataxy"
i would really like to send you my vfs rejetto but its 15.7mb, yes i know it is huge
With a vfs that big, you might have a resource problem.
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: ataxy on February 26, 2006, 05:34:57 AM
Quote from: "Anonymous"
Quote from: "ataxy"
i would really like to send you my vfs rejetto but its 15.7mb, yes i know it is huge
With a vfs that big, you might have a resource problem.
what do you meant by resource problem
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: rejetto on February 26, 2006, 08:34:06 AM
ok, i got his file...
it contains 82000+ items and took 12 minutes to load on my laptop (centrino 1.3GHz).
i really don't know why it hangs on your computer.

anyway i think you should use more real-folders. it seems to me you are getting more virtualization than you need, overloading worthlessly.
you only use virtual-folders, is there a reason you not using real-folders?
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: ataxy on February 26, 2006, 02:01:17 PM
well i use vfs because from what i understood you cannot upload to them
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: Mike on February 26, 2006, 03:36:49 PM
No, you can't upload to virtual folders but that should not stop you from using real folders.  In fact, real folders are preferred if the content is always changing.  To make a real folder uploadable, you have to first give your users upload access to a real folder.  If you don't give upload access, there won't be an upload option to upload to it.
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: ataxy on February 26, 2006, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: "Mike"
No, you can't upload to virtual folders but that should not stop you from using real folders.  In fact, real folders are preferred if the content is always changing.  To make a real folder uploadable, you have to first give your users upload access to a real folder.  If you don't give upload access, there won't be an upload option to upload to it.

ahhh i see
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: rejetto on February 27, 2006, 02:55:02 AM
maybe i should put a new feature: if the user puts more than X items, or anyway try to put a folder with many items as virtual, then pop up an advice about using real folders.
what you think about?
we should decide the number of items for the warning...
any suggestion?
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: ataxy on February 27, 2006, 05:15:27 AM
yes that would be a nice feature
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: Mike on February 27, 2006, 11:19:44 AM
A popup warning might be a good idea for some as long as there is an option to turn it off so it doesn't get annoying.  What you may think is the right number of items for the warning, others may not, as every admin runs their servers differently.
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: ataxy on February 27, 2006, 01:38:40 PM
Quote from: "Mike"
A popup warning might be a good idea for some as long as there is an option to turn it off so it doesn't get annoying.  What you may think is the right number of items for the warning, others may not, as every admin runs their servers differently.
absolutly
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: rejetto on February 28, 2006, 05:55:02 PM
it will just appear ONCE
after 10000 items
this is the message
You are putting many files.
This is just a warning, not an error.
You may notice slow operations.
Maybe real-folders could help you.
Read documentation or ask on the forum for help.
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: help420me on March 20, 2006, 06:13:37 AM
I know you've already done this, but how bout changintg the method of the notice from 10,000 items to actual loading times.  I had close to 10,000 items in a purely virtual vfs but it would only take about a minute and a half.  

Perhaps something like 5 mins of loading would cause the message to appear.  Sample time from loading start compared to time sample from load finishing.  If a 5 minute difference loading the vfs, toss up the message.

I run on a 1.4Ghz Athlon(not XP) with 256MB of pc133 memory and windows 2000 sp4.  The problem could be related to the Athlon64 cpu and the windows version.  Try to run purely 64-bit drivers for best performance.
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: rejetto on March 20, 2006, 09:07:26 AM
the message is not intended for those loading from VFS file, but adding/building the VFS, because i have to warn people ASAP.
the warning loading is just a side-effect.
indeed, i think virtual-folders are usually abused, so i'm trying to make people aware of alternatives.
you may be aware and ready to wait for over a minute, but most people are not.
if i'm not aware of such thing, i will get nervous after half a minute.
actually i lowered the threshold to just 1000.
most people don't read documentation, so i'm trying to help all those who will use virtual-folders with no awareness.
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: jack_2000 on April 04, 2006, 10:53:57 AM
i think it should be like:

You are putting too many files.
You may notice slow operations.
Maybe real-folders could help you.
This is just a warning, not an error.
Read documentation or ask on the forum for help.
[ok][cancel][Help]

and [help] will launch a web browser
Title: a very big VFS
Post by: rejetto on April 04, 2006, 10:27:17 PM
i cannot say "too", because it is not the sense of the message.
i noticed most people don't know what they are doing, so i warn them.
but someone will know what he is doing, and for him it is not too many.

the "not an error" sentence is on top just because i don't know if the user will read the whole long message, i think many people would panic and skip the rest. it is very important they don't think it is an error. HFS is able to manage many items.

it may sound strange to you, but i don't know a fast way to add the extra help button :)